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Post by cedric on Jan 26, 2006 8:37:36 GMT
www.furisdead.com/feat-trentreznor.aspNine Inch nails frontman Trent Reznor talks about the fur industry in China. This video is gruesome. (btw you can win an iPod signed by trent if you forward the video to many many people)
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Post by eelsdotnl on Jan 26, 2006 10:41:10 GMT
I don't have to get that iPod, but I'm forwading this... shocking!
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Post by Great Mistake on Jan 26, 2006 11:10:10 GMT
They didn't even show the most shocking stuff I think, I recently heard on the radio a minute of cats and dogs screaming who were being killed. It sounded horrible.
And then to say that his friend Marilyn Manson throws living chicken in his audience to be ripped appart. I guess chickens just aren't as cute as cats and dogs.
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Post by cedric on Jan 26, 2006 11:13:12 GMT
Marylin Manson is not his friend anymore
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Post by Great Mistake on Jan 26, 2006 11:30:33 GMT
I thought they made up.
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Post by cedric on Jan 26, 2006 11:35:52 GMT
yea 5 years ago. They performed starfuckers inc together, but then the fight restarted or something. They will never be friends again anyway. Manson's goal was fame and Trent couldn't understand that.
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Post by eelsdotnl on Jan 26, 2006 11:57:44 GMT
I remember the video to Closer with a pig's head and a monkey tied to a cross... not exactely animalfriendly either if you ask me... Just like the 'ozzy bit the head of a live bat' story the ' marilyn manson threw a chicken in the audience' story is also supposedly false by the way...
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Post by Great Mistake on Jan 26, 2006 12:03:38 GMT
marylin manson is a sick bastard, but also a clever salesman. You can show a lot in a video without actually doing it I recently read an interview with Ozzy where he said it was true about the bat, he also said he bit a lot of pigeons; but he blamed it all on the evil drugs and said he was sorry
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Post by cedric on Jan 26, 2006 12:08:52 GMT
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Post by eelsdotnl on Jan 26, 2006 12:17:08 GMT
marylin manson is a sick bastard, but also a clever salesman. absolutely! I quite like his act actually... You can show a lot in a video without actually doing it that's so true... as Trent can be seen floating in that Closer video as well... hard to imagine he can actually do that I recently read an interview with Ozzy where he said it was true about the bat, he also said he bit a lot of pigeons; but he blamed it all on the evil drugs and said he was sorry I have a biography where it sais that the bat was dead when it was thrown on the stage... in that very same book it says that Ozzy once shot and killed 17 of his first wife Thelma's cats because he couldn't sleep at night because of the noise they made...
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Post by cedric on Jan 26, 2006 12:32:15 GMT
you people like nine inch nails?
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Post by eelsdotnl on Jan 26, 2006 12:33:08 GMT
you people like nine inch nails? love them! or better... Trent rules! as he is NIN...
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Post by schlomo on Jan 26, 2006 13:09:12 GMT
I don't know about Marilyn Manson, but Alice Cooper once had a bad experience with a chicken and a rowdy audience.
He was doing a show back in the early '70s, and someone, for some weird reason, had brought a chicken. It was thrown, live, onto stage, so Alice threw it back. Who wants a chicken onstage? But then the audience got their hands on it and shredded it, throwing guts and flesh back at Alice.
Humans are pretty damn stupid sometimes. (Also, I've never listened to Nine Inch Nails.)
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Post by cedric on Jan 26, 2006 14:41:22 GMT
I think nin is close to be the greatest band alive (together with eels) NIN is the second band that I listen to in an obsessive way together with eels. In the song nominations I uploaded a nin song, you should check that one out.
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Post by Great Mistake on Jan 26, 2006 15:06:37 GMT
To be honest, I only heard "the downward spiral" and I never really got in to it. I really like the song "hurt" (I heard it first from Johnny Cash that's why I got interested) but the rest sounded like a lot of screaming and noice to me But to be fair I haven't given it enough listens yet. I don't like marylin manson's act, I think he's one big stupid faker. And being a vegetarian I have anything but sympathy for all this animal cruelty
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Post by eelsdotnol now logging in on Jan 26, 2006 15:36:24 GMT
To be honest, I only heard "the downward spiral" and I never really got in to it. I really like the song "hurt" (I heard it first from Johnny Cash that's why I got interested) but the rest sounded like a lot of screaming and noice to me But to be fair I haven't given it enough listens yet. the downward spiral is indeed hard to get into... although it's one of my favourites of all time! you should try pretty hate machine for 'easier' listening and check out songs like 'something I can never have' and 'the day the world went away' (from The Fragile). Or the more mellow cd that came with And All That Could Have Been'. Actually (just like Eels I guess) you just have to see them play live and you're hooked... I don't like marylin manson's act, I think he's one big stupid faker. I don't think he's a faker. He just gives the people what they want... he's first and foremosty a businessman I guess... you don't call clowns fakers just because they don't wear their make up all day... this is probably the same. It's an act... and a good and very funny one! And being a vegetarian I have anything but sympathy for all this animal cruelty maybe you should forget about Nine Inch Nails and puty on The Smiths' Meat Is Murder! Also an amazing album!!!
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Post by cedric on Jan 26, 2006 17:14:16 GMT
Only good album of manson is AntiChrist superstar on wich Trent Reznor contributed. Since then he found him self in a downward spiral.
I'd say my top5 of best allbums contains 2 NiN albums being the downward spiral en the fragile. ESB would also be in my top 5.
Don't know about the other two though
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Post by renie on Jan 26, 2006 21:19:11 GMT
(btw you can win an iPod signed by trent if you forward the video to many many people) This is in itself gruesome. He's supporting the snowball system. Or spamming. "Watch animals being tortured and be rewarded with an iPod." It's this idea that's gruesome.
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Post by dizzee satchel on Jan 26, 2006 23:08:32 GMT
john cale also once beheaded a chicken onstage for a 'laugh'. sadly forgetting that half of his band were militant veggies, who promply left the building.
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Post by maple tree on Jan 26, 2006 23:11:52 GMT
John Cale can do whatever the hell he likes as far as I'm concerned, genius as he is.
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Post by dizzee satchel on Jan 26, 2006 23:13:23 GMT
you're just biased because of his welsh heritage!
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Post by renie on Jan 27, 2006 0:43:23 GMT
Isn't John Cale on tour right now? I think I saw a few posters.
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Post by cedric on Jan 27, 2006 5:02:24 GMT
(btw you can win an iPod signed by trent if you forward the video to many many people) This is in itself gruesome. He's supporting the snowball system. Or spamming. "Watch animals being tortured and be rewarded with an iPod." It's this idea that's gruesome. Well it's harch but I'm sure that this way lots of more people get to see the video. That's just how it works in this world...
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