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Jan 18, 2006 22:12:04 GMT
Post by redlocks on Jan 18, 2006 22:12:04 GMT
oh! i didn't refer to it as such but in case anyone is confused i guess now they aren't! NOW...back to our topic as scheduled.
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Jan 18, 2006 23:49:14 GMT
Post by sjaakie on Jan 18, 2006 23:49:14 GMT
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Jan 19, 2006 14:30:38 GMT
Post by cedric on Jan 19, 2006 14:30:38 GMT
If someone plays piano, then it's also music made by pushing buttons ^^
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Jan 19, 2006 15:24:23 GMT
Post by Great Mistake on Jan 19, 2006 15:24:23 GMT
to go back on topic:
why don't we organise an international eels fan crash party? we all get stoned like a duck and listen to eels and mc honky, after that we can do an orgy
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Jan 20, 2006 7:54:51 GMT
Post by cedric on Jan 20, 2006 7:54:51 GMT
Hmmz crash party seems cool Don't know about the orgy though since the majority here is still male :s I bet if you say "stoned like a duck" on the song "like a duck" we would be laughing for an hour long about it.
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Jan 20, 2006 13:24:12 GMT
Post by no mayo please on Jan 20, 2006 13:24:12 GMT
I'm female! I'll come!
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Jan 20, 2006 13:30:39 GMT
Post by cedric on Jan 20, 2006 13:30:39 GMT
what about in 2 weeks at the belgian coast? I rented a cottage their with some friends for week ^^
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Jan 20, 2006 20:01:16 GMT
Post by Great Mistake on Jan 20, 2006 20:01:16 GMT
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Jan 20, 2006 20:12:44 GMT
Post by Colin on Jan 20, 2006 20:12:44 GMT
i really could use some but instead of that i go to bed for a good night sleep.
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Jan 20, 2006 20:40:31 GMT
Post by Great Mistake on Jan 20, 2006 20:40:31 GMT
I think I'd rather take a late night walk in the heart of the countryside Sorry I reply on this old statement but I was rereading this and I thought: man, a late night walk in the heart of the country side is great. I so much like the feeling of a summer night in the middle of nature. I really don't get people who get stoned and then go to a music with loud repitive music. When we still got stoned we often went to some place in the middle of nature on a summer night, with a discman with great sweet music. Aaaaaah those are good memories. Just had to get that out. I'm such a hippie.
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Jan 20, 2006 21:13:18 GMT
Post by sadie on Jan 20, 2006 21:13:18 GMT
hippies are cool!...I presume.
mmm the middle of nature on a summers night, you give me such urges niels
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Jan 21, 2006 3:13:38 GMT
Post by Jed on Jan 21, 2006 3:13:38 GMT
The girl next door to me died last year from drugs. Shit-faced, she climbed in the bathtub and drowned in one inch of water.
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Jan 21, 2006 3:53:33 GMT
Post by Great Mistake on Jan 21, 2006 3:53:33 GMT
That really sucks. But nothing something that would ever happen to me.
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Jan 21, 2006 16:12:03 GMT
Post by no mayo please on Jan 21, 2006 16:12:03 GMT
what about in 2 weeks at the belgian coast? I rented a cottage their with some friends for week ^^ I'm scared if I come to Belgium Jav-ack will find me and jump me
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Jan 21, 2006 16:21:00 GMT
Post by redlocks on Jan 21, 2006 16:21:00 GMT
what about in 2 weeks at the belgian coast? I rented a cottage their with some friends for week ^^ I'm scared if I come to Belgium Jav-ack will find me and jump me Well you volunteered to come...what did you expect?
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Jan 21, 2006 16:24:33 GMT
Post by no mayo please on Jan 21, 2006 16:24:33 GMT
Yes, I have brought this upon myself. I just can't miss an eels orgy.
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Jan 21, 2006 18:54:05 GMT
Post by Javac on Jan 21, 2006 18:54:05 GMT
I'm scared if I come to Belgium Jav-ack will find me and jump me If they are covered in smoke (and certainly weed smoke), i stay away from people. It's like garlic or wooden crosses.
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Jan 21, 2006 23:00:33 GMT
Post by redlocks on Jan 21, 2006 23:00:33 GMT
I have not made much comment about drugs here and really don't intend to. I am struggling with this because of my 17 year old son, his drunk driving arrest, and my subsequent knowledge that drinking is not all he's doing. He doesn't consider me a very cool parent right now but would I be a GOOD parent if I had knowledge of these activities and did nothing to try to prevent them while he is underage? I don't think so. He had absolutely no social privileges until shortly before Christmas when his father and I decided to allow him some time outside the house each day to spend with his friends. He still has a court date coming up and we want to insure he gets in no further trouble before then. Well, obviously we don't want any more trouble at all but especially now. We were about to lengthen the time he is allowed to spend away from home on the weekends but something happened today. He called me while I was at work. He was also "supposedly" at work. I know he went to work because his father took him there. He said he'd just gotten off and wanted a friend to come and get him so he could spend a couple hours at his house. It didn't sound like he was at work. The background noise was wrong. I questioned him on this and was not completely comfortable with his answer. When we hung up I called the restaurant where he worked. He was not there. I called him back and he admitted he hadn't been there for a while. He had lied to me. Again. Trust is the biggest issue I have with him. I thought maybe he had spent enough time being miserable to understand that he had to be truthful with me. Evidently not. So now he has no privileges again. Neither of us are very happy about this. I don't like parenting this way. I also don't like finding out my son is lying to me. There is just a whole lot about this situation I don't like. Drugs? I can not say they are the cause of all of this but when you look at everything going on with him, they certainly aren't helping. That's something you have to understand about alcohol and drugs. There is healthy and unhealthy use. Well, some are just plain unhealthy altogether but all can be abused and used as a crutch and for escape from real life during times when the very thing you need is to experience the pain and angst of growing up. Knowing the difference between the two comes only with age and experience. I just know I am very sad right now.
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Jan 22, 2006 1:36:29 GMT
Post by sjaakie on Jan 22, 2006 1:36:29 GMT
i completly understand your feeling just relise that the time will come he understand that it's just making problems instead of making him less think about it.
i prommised i would never go full on again. and i really apreciate my wife for the time she spend with me on a roundabout for 6 hrs that i was so fucked up i couldent walk. or my brother helping me getting home as i was found asleep in the middle of a road tripped. And i can imagine how scared my mum was when she heard these story's hoping if i would grow over it or would stay the slump i wass. after all i realise how shocking it had to sound for evrybody i made the decision to travvel for a while and only posting cards maybe once a month or probertly less. but now i'm really apreciate what i got visit my parents at least once a week i dont know what i really ment to say but keep the hope redlocks it's only temporarry he will grow over it and you all laugh about the story's
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Jan 22, 2006 5:49:34 GMT
Post by no mayo please on Jan 22, 2006 5:49:34 GMT
Being a parent must be so hard sometimes. I'm no hardcore drug user and alcohol has always been a part of my upbringing. I've been drinking wine since I was like 12. Not long ago my Mother went away for a weekend and I had a few friends over and we drank a fair bit, I wasn't too good at clearing up and left a few suss things around the house. Mum found out and was none too impressed. I've never seen her so angry. I mean, it's over now, but she went on and on about how much trust she thought was between us and how it was so much harder doing this alone (My Dad died a few years ago) so that was pretty awful, not just being yelled at but being really guilted. I never really got punished as such, but due to a combination of things, my fight with Mum being one of them, I got the horrible stress rash I get once or twice a year and I think that was punishment enough, along with the dramatic mother-daughter. It's been good in a way because now I don't lie to Mum about what I'm doing. If I'm going to a party where there's alcohol then I can tell her, because that awkward bit of ice has already been broken. Obviously she doesn't condone heavy drinking by teenagers, but the acceptance has sort of taken away some of the initial rebellion type feeling for me, so drinking isn't such a big deal anymore (I still do it though...heh) I haven't smoked weed in months, but I'm sure when it comes time again I'll hate myself for lying to her. It sounds real nerdy, but I love having my Mum's trust and breaking it just doesn't seem to be worth it anymore. It works the other way though, she's much more leniant than before because she knows I'm not a little girl anymore and I can take care of myself and there aren't huge lies between us. She's the cool Mum, everyone else that I know has to lie bigtime to their parents. She secretly enjoys having the admiration of my friends I think. So, kudos to you Redlocks, for making it this far and good luck, I hope your son makes some important choices soon to save a lot more heatache.
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Jan 22, 2006 8:05:56 GMT
Post by cedric on Jan 22, 2006 8:05:56 GMT
I also understand you. It's hard to gain trust of teenager. I think no mayo has a rather good situation with her mother she can trust, and if she does something wrong she feels guilty about itagainst her. I don't have that. I barely talk to my parents. Well I talk to my dad about music and I argue about the most stupid things with my mom.
If there's anything on my mind, or if I have a problem, I don't feel I can go to my parents with it because they don't have a clue what my life is like, what I do and all. If I go away for a week and I get loaded and stoned every day. Then I don't have anyone to feel guilt too except for myself. They're also so naieve, they don't have a clue. There were times I sneaked out of the house twice a week to get to my girlfriend and smoke some grass. They never had a clue. So it seems I have to make choices all of my own. I'm jealous at some friends of mine who can tell their parents anything.
So Redlocks I sincerely hope you can gain your trust again of your teenager, try to talk to him on a non judging way. Let him explain why he does what and try to understand why he does that but don't approove it either. If that succeeds I think you're well on your way. I don't want to be the one judging you though redlocks but I just thought you should know it's not easy for both sides. It's just that I know an exact similar situation at my girlfriends house where things are getting worse. She's going totally the wrong way and even I can't stop her. All the parents do is punish her, don't let her leave the house. But they don't actually talk to her and she doesn't feel like she can talk to her parents because they judge everything and she is so openminded.
Well all the best luck to you all
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Jan 22, 2006 15:03:12 GMT
Post by liesbet on Jan 22, 2006 15:03:12 GMT
I'm sorry Redlocks... I gave you a virtual hug in an exalty way I hope your son will understand that you suffer from his stupidities and lies.. He's able to grow out of it idd. I don't have any experience with drugs or bad friends so I'll just be a silent support and hope things are cleared up very soon. *hug*
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Jan 22, 2006 16:41:39 GMT
Post by Great Mistake on Jan 22, 2006 16:41:39 GMT
Redlocks, I really know what you're talking about. Not that I am a parent, but I know a lot about trouble children, but I'm not going to explain or talk about that. I just hope you can straighten it out with your son. Drugs, especially hard drugs and alcohol, can be real bitches for a lot of people. In my opinion there is always some other first cause - there must be some other psychological reason why you start taking loads of hard drugs or alcohol - but the problem of them is that they bring you in to a vicious cycle of big psychological, social and practical problems.
Cedric, I also know what you're talking about. Although it has never been that bad with me (and I thought I was bad), I know what you mean. But think about this: you might be a part of the problem too. If you would tell your parents more about your personal life in general (off course not just confront them with some problem) you can have a better relationship with you parents, and might it ever happen that you really need them, then you'll know what to say. I don't want to judge you either, or tell you what to do. It's just something I recognize, and my thoughts about it might apply to you too, and might be worth considering.
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Jan 22, 2006 17:55:41 GMT
Post by cedric on Jan 22, 2006 17:55:41 GMT
The problem in generall with me and my parents is like this. My dad works alot, he leaves at 7.30u am and comes home at 7 pm or something. So I only see him in weekends and then he likes to sit nice an comfortable in his chair. I don't argue with my dad much, atleast I have one interest we share wich is music. But he's never been that interested in my life. He asks once in a while "how was tennis, or how is uni going?" but that's about it. My mom on the other hand. She stopped working when I was born (wich was a great mistake in the first place) She almost never leaves the house now. Her life is this house and the supermarket. I on the other hand leave the house much. When you stay at home that long it affects your way of living. The smallest problems become big problems. You cannot relativate anymore You don't actually see things of the outside world so you only know things by "I heard that ..." So she has prejudges about everything but really doesn't get her facts straight about anything. About the only things she says is whining about things have moved in the supermarket, and she couldn't find things right away and she had to ask a guy from the supermarket but he wasn't very helpfull and so on and so on. Or she whines about the weather. So if there's a problem with the computer or something, like there isn't an icon for word on her destkop, then she makes of that a HUGE problem. I've been living with her for 18 years, so yes I can't stand those stupid little things she makes a problem of. It's SO IRRITATING And all she does is talk about herself. In some way she tries to give her life importance although she knows there's something terribly wrong in her life but won't admit it. It's the same thing when my parents are arguing about some topic, and turns out that my mom was right then she really has to show off with it. So other people should accept her importance, that she misses. I would feel myself pretty useless in her place too. I tried to tell her she should get a hobby or something but then I get an answer like "my hobby is resting". How the hell can you talk to someone about your problems if that person never stops whining about her own small problems, that don't make a damn difference in the world? Who the hell cares that the potaties have been moved from one section to another. And her way of life has become such a custom that I'm affraid she'll never be able to change that. So I don't see anything getter better soon. But i'm going to move out in the not so distinct future anyway... The only way I see that I'm part of the problem is by getting irritated of her little problems. But hell I think I deserve to be after 18 years. Ohwell not what you would call a happy family huh? It's like the only thing that's a bit wrong in my life, other then that I'm fairly happy with my life. I've got other people to adress myself if I have a problem.
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Jan 22, 2006 19:25:35 GMT
Post by david on Jan 22, 2006 19:25:35 GMT
"my hobby is resting"
thats funny
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